Ailment: Mites (demodex mites)
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Comment posted by Lisa AD of Sarasota, Florida, USA on 24 May 2022 at 4:53 5348
For the past nine months we first thought we had bird mites then I thought it was Demodex. I found the person commenting on bird nests on the property and bird mites traveling through the air to be very interesting. We have a large Bougainvillea with tons of bird nests inside it in the corner of our property but not touching our house. An entomologist told me it had to be touching the house to cause problems, but I believe what I read here was correct. We are now considering cutting down that tree. We have cut down most of the other trees on our property but our neighbours have plenty.
I use MSM soap every night before bed as shampoo and MSM lotion. This has 90% killed the mites in the house. Our car is still infected. I’m wondering if MSM diluted in water sprayed in my car might help. Has anybody had any luck with MSM and water, like putting a few spoonfuls of MSM in water and soaking things in it?
Reply from David Niven Miller:
Living birds are required in a nest for the nest to be a source of mites. The biting-stage mites can only live for a week without a host, so a week after the birds have gone so has the source of infection. For this reason it is probably not necessary to disinfect your car – unless somehow it is right next to an occupied nest and keeps getting re-infected.
Comment posted by Susan of East Granby , Connecticut, USA on 14 November 2021 at 12:0 5319
I’ve been suffering since September 2019 with a large bird nest over my kitchen window they crawled through the air conditioner in my window. I was overwhelmed by what seemed like hundreds of them crawling on my legs up to my knees then all at once they started to bite at the same time. It was a complete nightmare. Only one bug inspector knew what it was after seeing 3 other inspectors. I lived in hotels for over a year. My apartment was completely infested with them, clothing, under all the carpets. I also had to get rid of a car due to them in the car. They are so microscopic until they’ve had a blood meal, either humans or birds then they turn black, still the size of a ball point pen tip.
I’ve just begun to use MSM and have noticed a slight improvement. Also I spray hypochlorous acid on everything including my skin and clothing, purchased online. It smells like bleach. I also just started to drink food grade diatomaceous earth twice a day. I am also using an enzyme cleaner. I’ve just taken Ivermectin 3 weeks straight. I’ve heard about an injection called Stromectol and waiting to hear from my Dr if I can get this injection once a month for 3 months.
Only a few people have heard about these mites. Most doctors cannot help, but only one dermatologist understands and is trying to help me. It can drive you crazy, hot humid days, rainy days are the worst. I’m going to get the limes and lemon as suggested on this site. It’s costing so much money to get rid of these things. Best to all of you.
Comment posted by Pam of Fort Bragg, CA, USA on 10 March 2021 at 9:6 5295
I have been afflicted with some kind of biting mites here in northern CA since 2019 and they have continued to date. We have mostly tiny white biting dust mites of various sizes and they seem to be aerial sprayed into our outdoor air in overhead cloud formations daily. These mites come in from the outside and seem to live inside clothing or fabrics especially cotton or bedding, and even lampshades or blankets, upholstery, carpets, and even kitchen paper towels etc. We also had tiny black ones in 2019 like black pepper, but now in 2021 most are either white or silver colored. Some are about the size of the tip of a straight pin and some are larger like grains of sand. All bite the skin and / or invade skin pores. They especially like to congregate in the hair, scalp, eyebrows, eyelashes, eyelids, ears and neck. But they will attack anywhere skin is available such as ankles and lower legs.
I discovered that organic fresh squeezed lime juice kills all of these skin-biting dust mites. I use about 1/3 of an organic lime squeezed into a cup of water and drink it like a fruit punch. It also makes me feel refreshed and renewed right away and calmer.
I also found that a shampoo with neem oil in it would easily wash these bugs off and also stopped skin rash or inflammation itching immediately. And then later I discovered that fresh-squeezed lime juice applied with the neem shampoo and some water would easily kill them for washing them away all over the body and soothe irritated skin. But my best Remedy now is to first wet the skin with tap water, add a little shampoo, and then add undiluted fresh squeezed organic lime fruit juice and rub over the affected skin. Leave on while washing all over and rinse off or wash one area at a time with a wet wash cloth. Sometimes I add a few drops of oregano essential oil mixed in, and then rinse off.
I find that since using lime juice on my face and neck areas that my skin looks younger. It is a Youth Serum unlike any other! It also tightens skin pores and lifts the skin probably through the skin benefits of improved liver and kidney function.
These tiny mites also attack my parakeet birds and my cat too especially on her stomach area where she has less fur. Lime juice kills them with just a little rubbed on the bite area for the cat. She the cat also licks the fresh lime juice off of my hands. Animals are more intuitive than people. I find kitty gets attacked less if I also give her braggs nutritional yeast daily mixed in her cat food gravy which she loves. I assume this will also help dogs that get bit by these bugs. I note that before I discovered these therapies my cat got some mange fur loss around her bushy tail area, and that a pet product named oatmeal mist did wonders for her tail mange problem right away and calmed her down from biting and scratching. I had to rub it on her though with a brown no chlorine paper towel that I had wet with the pet mist because she did not like the spray bottle application! She would lick it off too, but it did not make her sick at all.
I have some questions. Could MSM nutritional supplement could be used internally to help keep these biting dust mites off? This is a sulfur supplement and sulfur does go directly to the pores of the skin like garlic if you eat fresh raw garlic it will show up as a smell all the way down to your toes. Thus, maybe this MSM would work without the garlic breath? I wonder about peppermint too. If on the skin or clothes would it repel them? Peppermint oil does repel spiders and ants. Or maybe just having peppermint plants near the doorways and windows? Also Nutritional Yeast will repel mosquitos if 1 tbsp. is ingested daily for most humans. Thus, there has to be another answer to repel them before they bite! But for now...I’m using organic lime juice on my skin as I’m thrilled to look 40 again at the actual age of 71 years! People are really shocked when I tell them my real age! Maybe I should keep this a secret. With Blessings to you all!
REPLY from David Niven Miller, Grow Youthful website owner:
Hi Pam, It is unlikely that you have demodex mites, or that they have been sprayed – because demodex mites would die within minutes if carried in the air. It is more likely that you and your property are infected with bird mites such as ornithonyssus bursa, ornithonyssus sylviarum, dermanyssus gallinae (chicken mite), or ornithonyssus bacoti (tropical rat mite). The appearance of their being carried in the air is quite correct as they are blown in from birds nests. The "dust mites" appearance and skin symptoms can seem just as you have described above.
Although the initial infection of bird mites probably came from outside your home, your pet parakeets will now play a part in the mites life cycle. You will need to deal with any wild birds nests or coops outside your home, and also with your pet birds, as you will NOT be able to break the mites life cycle as long as birds are still available to them.
Lemon juice would probably work as well as lime juice, as several Grow Youthful visitors have mentioned they have had success using it.
I suggest you read my Grow Youthful webpage on bird mites , which describes how they infect humans, their short-lived life cycle, and how they need birds as part of their life cycle and will die if birds are removed from their life cycle. The page also describes symptoms of mite bites, and how to treat bites and stop their cycle.
Regards, David Niven Miller
Question posted by DAK of Dry Ridge, Kentucky, USA on 15 May 2020 at 11:59 5223
I have been tortured since July 2019 with demodex mites. Within a month they began biting my body everywhere. Nothing has really worked. All 30 something products I tried seem to just keep them at bay. The latest is three times in the last month my eye lids, brows, lower lids - they turn bright red and burn for a few days, then peel for a week, then the process starts again. It can be from stress or other illnesses that causes the immune system to lower. It's like a vicious cycle - immune system lowers, get the infestation, you stress over that so the immune system never recovers. What do you do? Sedation for a month? This has consumed my life. I feel like a incubator for these things. I' m sorry but I can't imagine years of this. I can not do that. It's maddening, I'm not sure what else to say or do.
Comment posted by DavidM of Perth, WA, Australia on 3 March 2020 at 12:59 5209
Reply to tmom of Boston, MA, USA on 1 March 2020:
You can read the web page on MSM (Methylsulfonylmethane) by clicking on Ailments & Remedies at the top of the screen, then Remedies.
Also, if you go back to Ailments & Remedies, and click on Mites, you can see our readers comments on using MSM.
Comment posted by tmom of Boston, MA, USA on 1 March 2020 at 22:40 5208
I have been struggling with mite infestation since late spring 2019. I may have made a bad situation worse by aggressively treating my eyes and driving them to my scalp. Then I took biotin supplements and gave them a feeding frenzy and didn’t understand what was happening right away. I noted abatement when I got my hair colored for a few weeks. Then the scalp crawl started. My hair loss was conspicuous and noticeable by July. I stopped the biotin and it helped, but by December 2019 I was a mess. January 2020 I used diatomaceous earth and dusted it onto my scalp and left it overnight. It made big difference but you need to do it regular to break their life cycle. That was my mistake. My dermatologist thinks I am crazy and diagnosed female hair loss. In Feb 2020 I used a lice treatment rinse and they went crazy active 3 days later - must have been the eggs hatching. I should have done back-to-back treatment. I loaded my scalp with DE last Friday and noted almost immediately the movement stopped. Plan to wash the DE out today BUT have noted crawl sensation on ears, neck so maybe I am just moving them around.
What is the MSM product people are referring to? Thank you to all.
Comment posted by Adrienne of Auckland, Auckland, New Zealand on 10 December 2018 at 12:17 5108
In reply to Hope of Stockholm, Sverige, Sweden on 19 January 2018 at 6:34, comment 4905: about crawling on skin sensation. If it is not mites, it can also be caused by pesticide exposure or mercury toxicity in which case a different approach will be required involving a good internal detox program.
I had a 3 year journey with mites diagnosed by a good dermatologist. I made my own skincare cream with MSM, diatomaceous earth, tea tree essential oil, and some rose essential oil to mask the tea tree. The above mix certainly controls the condition and with morning and night application including one’s hair at night will eventually give recovery.
Question posted by Hope of Stockholm, Sverige, Sweden on 19 January 2018 at 6:34 4905
Hi, thank you all for this fantastic group, this is totally new for me. Mites exploded in my life after a long super-stressful period when everything that could go wrong really did. After 6-7 weeks of renovating the 30 flats I live in they put plastic all around, then changed our windows without installing ventilation for fresh air. They totally closed off all air by putting tape over all windows probably because of painting and other work. One week after that I woke up one morning with itching rashes under my breasts. I have never had anything like that, no eczema or something so it was really a bit worrying. Then because of where they were located and my age, 57 I went to the doc to check if it was herpes zoster, we call it beltrose in Swedish . Doc said no, it looks more as if something has bitten you! One week after that, and after seeing another doc, I had a typical rosacea mark on my left cheek, acne on the other and all over my chest and back, itching, crawling. I thought I’d caught scabies, but two doctors said no. No one even had a microscope and one told me to get that ghost out of my brain and get some psychiatry.
Question: Can it be that when we got no fresh air, and there was air coming IN where dirty old air is supposed to get OUT that I have caught this from one of my neighbours? I am newly divorced, my youngest son 20 years old lived with me at this time and his eyes became red and he started complaining of itching skin at the same time. This was November and two weeks later I told him to move to his dad since I was afraid he would also get this thing from hell. He is now fine, but I have had a living hell.
I am depressed, have had to clean EVERYTHING all the time because of a black yucky powder with black spots that lays everywhere in this flat if I’m not fast enough to wipe it off. All my carpets and stuff I don't need is in my store now. I don’t vacuum clean, instead I use superhot water 90C morning and evening to clean everything, bedclothes etc.
I have heard from other neighbours that they got red eyes, runny nose and they all complain over the poor ventilation but I don’t dare to ask them about this. Waited since November to have someone from the company that owns the building to come and inspect. They finally made contact with the environment department and others so things are probably going to speed up now, but I just need to know how I could get this shit without hugging anyone else than my dog. Very short fur Amstaff Rottweiler who has nothing in his fur and no itching. My grownup kids are all well. Can this spread from ventilation between apartments? I have gone from having a big family, dog, girlfriends, sons living with me a lot to now being totally on my own in this apartment since first week of December. I have not worked a lot because of this exhausting regimen to keep everything clean. I can do work from home, but need to see customers in the health food business and I panic when thinking that this will continue.
I want to share one trick before I stop. If you want to clean up your pores follicles put pure aloe vera jelly all over your face or a spot you want to treat. Let it stay for 2-3 minutes, then rub on AlkoGel (alcohol, aloe vera). We can buy it cheaply in the grocery store here in Stockholm. You will soon see white, greasy things popping up. Continue to rub and pick the white stuff away. I use wet paper towels. Rinse with clean water and spray colloidal silver. I also use one glass of water mixed with 2 table spoons with MSM (Methy-Sulfonyl-Methane). This will freshen up all the affected area and has been the best of all products I have tried. But after reading all these comments I will for sure try the hydrogen peroxide. SOOOO GRATEFUL for this group! The aloe, AlkoGel, colloidal silver and MSM has made my life better and my skin much more beautiful again, but still I have the itching and biting on my feet and legs. I don’t go barefoot in here any longer! Big hug to all of you suffering from this devastating creep.
Comment posted by Merle of Hilo, Hawaii, USA on 20 July 2016 at 18:27 4168
8 months into full head body demodex infestation and improving. Biting stopped and there were just a few itchy spots, but head, eyelashes, ears and nose were still active. That all changed this week when I started using 1 tsp. powdered mustard with a small amount of water and letting it develop for a couple of minutes, then add 1-2 tsp. MSM powder to the mustard and stir well. To this I added 2 to 4 oz. of liquid tea tree oil castile soap. I wash my hair and and body with this mixture, and used MSM bar soap to wash my face because it is sensitive. The result is that a couple of hours after the mustard wash, mites start biting itching me in many more spots than before. I believe this is because the MSM powder carries the mustard deep into my pores and flushes mites out that I couldn't reach before. When the mites come out and start biting itching, I scrub down my head and body with diluted cider vinegar to kill those crawling on my skin, and leave my skin to air dry. After the vinegar scrub, the biting itching stops and I oil myself up for the night. I'm hoping if I continue this for a few weeks, I will greatly reduce the number buried mites and speed up my recovery.